Kramer goes off the deep end.

Cyren · Post by **Cyren** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:26 am

Kramer from seinfeld at a comedy club...

WARNING THIS VIDEO IS OFFENSIVE!!!!!

Garuk · Post by **Garuk** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:37 am

Very dissappointing!

Rengar · Post by **Rengar** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:35 am

Uncool...

Kreskin · Post by **Kreskin** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:00 am

Dont worry guys he's not a racist lmao

What a looser good luck with reviving your career.

Smelly old Hob · Post by **Smelly old Hob** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:22 am

He pull a Mel Gibson?

Post by **Rorix** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:46 pm

Kramer...noooooooooo =(

Post by **Nethely** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:20 pm

I saw him on t.v. last night on the late show making an apology with seinfeld on there. Sad thing is, that is the wrong show to do that on. That show is about nothing but jokes and the crowd kept laughing. All he could say is, "NO, dont laugh this is not funny.."

I really feel sorry for the guy, but those dudes shouldn't have been messing with him. You mess with fire and you get burnt. Stupid people deserve stupid comments, and thats what they got.

Post by **86er** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:35 pm

really feel sorry for the guy

I dont, hes a racist son of a bitch and he deserves all of the negative publicity that hes getting.

Everybody prejudges people based on a variety of things, skin color included but the things that he said were pretty far over the line. It's people like this that preserve the the stereo-type of "ignorant racist redneck".

Post by **Nethely** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:39 pm

I guess its my mistake before being able to see what was said and just going by what I was told. From what I understand though, those guys were dusrupting his show and he asked them to stop. His words werent working so he offended them in a way that would get their attention, only seems it was a bad thing to do.

Guess thats like Kerry's comments about the military though, eh?

Post by **86er** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:46 pm

That's besides the point. Remeber the 1st baseman that threw a chair at a fan for harassing him? He got into huge trouble too, I think he even got sued. The point is when you are in the spotlite you take the good with the bad. There is no excuse for saying the things that he said. None.

Post by **Nethely** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:51 pm

I am most definetly not condoning any type of racist remark or trying to take a side with him. Just saying that I feel sorry for him, as I would with anyone else. Never knew about the baseball thing, but I bet you that person deserved to get a chair thrown at them. People egg others to do something and then when they do it, they cry about it.

Most things in life you get what you deserve.. May not be what you want, but you get it.. Same statement holds true with Kramer, he deserves to be shunned upon for his actions and words, but to ruin his career over one thing, thats something to pity someone for.

Buzzkill · Post by **Buzzkill** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:18 pm

I dont think the guys a racist.

If hes getting heckled at a show, he just got pissed and snapped and just said anything to piss of the heckler.

If the dude had been 350 lbs, he would have called him a fat bitch or something like that. It was just to piss THAT guy off, not because he hates all black people. I think theres a big difference.

Post by **Kordolin** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:43 pm

Freakshow wrote:I dont think the guys a racist.

If hes getting heckled at a show, he just got pissed and snapped and just said anything to piss of the heckler.

If the dude had been 350 lbs, he would have called him a fat bitch or something like that. It was just to piss THAT guy off, not because he hates all black people. I think theres a big difference.

Exactly. People who are rascist are rascist for good, and always behave that way. That was a spur of the moment incident/loss of temper and control. Now, if he has been that way before then it would be justified to call him rascist. That doesn't mean what he said isn't rascsit though; I think it's terrible. At least give him some respect for apologizing, whether or not you criticize him for what he said.

Post by **Kordolin** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:44 pm

Woops, posted twice

Post by **86er** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:46 pm

Kordolin wrote:
Freakshow wrote:I dont think the guys a racist.

If hes getting heckled at a show, he just got pissed and snapped and just said anything to piss of the heckler.

If the dude had been 350 lbs, he would have called him a fat bitch or something like that. It was just to piss THAT guy off, not because he hates all black people. I think theres a big difference.
Exactly. People who are rascist are rascist for good, and always behave that way. That was a spur of the moment incident/loss of temper and control. Now, if he has been that way before then it would be justified to call him rascist. That doesn't mean what he said isn't rascsit though; I think it's terrible. At least give him some respect for apologizing, whether or not you criticize him for what he said.

he could have made fun of him for many different things, hes a professional comedian ffs. he chose the race card. reguardless of the circumstances, hes wrong and is a dirt bag.

Cyren · Post by **Cyren** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:12 pm

I disagree with you Nethly, but of course I respect your opinion. What this is called is "heckling" in the comedy world. Just about every comic has been heckled at one time or another. Heck, 90% of the comics you see that have 'made it' have been boo'd, sometimes even boo'd offstage. Talk to any professional and they will tell you about "chops", if you have your chops you can handle a little heckling.

Kramer lost it, and hateful racist comments spilled out of his mouth. You could tell he was very angry. Did he make a mistake that he now regrets? Absolutely. But I feel that what we saw (much like the Kerry comment) is a true reflection of what is in their heart.

Rengar · Post by **Rengar** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:50 pm

he could have made fun of him for many different things, hes a professional comedian ffs. he chose the race card. reguardless of the circumstances, hes wrong and is a dirt bag.

But I feel that what we saw (much like the Kerry comment) is a true reflection of what is in their heart.

Both are very true. There is never a situation where a person has to use racial slurs and if one feels the need to say things like this deserves the worse punishment possible.

Rengar · Post by **Rengar** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:50 pm

gah, double post ftl

Kreskin · Post by **Kreskin** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:19 am

I agree with Cyren. You can tell even in the tape he starts to realise he fucked up towards the end.

I'm not saying the guy in the kkk or whatever but he definatly has some racist views and by acting unprofessionally he probably ruined what little he had left of a "career"

The funniest thing is he gets pissed when the black guys call him a cracker you can tell he was offeneded.

Cyren · Post by **Cyren** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:28 am

For some reason the word cracker doesn't really offend me. Maybe if someone got up in my face and screamed it at me it would, but on a whole it's kinda silly. I'd just assume people not use racial slurs at all, even to their own race. It's just not needed.